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心理专业学生如何才能做好学问?第三部分3

How do you balance your professional and personal lives?

Shelley Taylor.
With great difficulty! This is a tough one. When you are in graduate school or just finishing up undergraduate years, you are setting two fundamentally important tasks at the same time. What kind of life you are going to have in terms of a partner and a family and what kind of career you are going to have. And you have to solve those big ones often at exactly the same time, and it is very tricky, very much an evolutionary process. In my case, I have been able to have two children and a husband of 28 years, and he has been committed to the both of us having careers from the outset, which has been my great fortune. I would wish that for you and urge you to make that a criterion in the decision you ultimately make. There are, however, sacrifices that have to be made along the way. You may end up where you do not want to be for a while, or you compromise on a setting because it will maximize both your outcomes. Ultimately, those are the hard choices you have to make.

I would urge you, however, to be creative in the solutions that you develop. Do not immediately assume that the job is an immovable force and that you have to wedge the rest of your life around it. Be creative in the solutions that you develop in your job. Solutions are developing nationally, as well as individually, so that people have more options. Push, try to find the openings that you need. When I found out that I was pregnant, it turned out that there were two other people in my department who were pregnant at the same time. So there were two women faculty members both about to give birth. The third person was the chairman’s secretary. That turned out to be very important because the chairman did not want to lose his secretary. So he created a little daycare center in our department, and all three of the babies went into that daycare center. Now we were very fortunate in benefiting from that, but it is an example of the kind of situation that can evolve when the need is there. A lot of this is such that you pull it together, and you play each situation as it arises. I do not think there are any foolproof rules.

Martin Seligman.
Well I am not a fount of wisdom about this, but there are two things I think about. First, one of Erik Erickson’s many mistakes was to argue that in the sequence of development, love and family came before career and achievement. I think in our world for many people, career and achievement come before love and family. The path for me has been sequential for this.

There is indeed a threefold secret to success such that I think almost any of you 20 years from now could be up on this platform. I am only going to mention one of the three secrets now. That secret is, given sufficient intelligence in the broad sense, working 80 hours a week for 20 years is a formula for becoming world class at almost anything. That is kind of a dismal prospect but is indeed what I did—and my first marriage was a failure. After the sequence of the first 20 years of working for 80 hours a week, I think I was ready to be a father and a husband again. So for the last 10 years of my life, I have three more children and a different marriage. In fact, one of my wife’s conditions for running for APA president (which involves a great deal of travel) was to buy one of those big GMC trucks, so everywhere we go the whole family goes and is part of it.

Robert Sternberg.
Some years ago, I realized that it is really important to me to make an impact on the field, so that the kind of work I do after I pop off will continue to matter to the field. And then I looked around and said, how many dead psychologists are being cited today? I realized it is not that many. I mean, Clark Hull was a
big shot at Yale, and now most people only know that he had something to do with mathematical learning theory, if that. I realized that the one thing that is sure is that I have kids, and they are going to have kids, and that is going to continue—the work probably will not. I think that speaks for itself.
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原帖由 sos862004 于 2008-7-30 15:45 发表
How do you balance your professional and personal lives?

Shelley Taylor.
With great difficulty! This is a tough one. When you are in graduate school or just finishing up undergraduate years, you are setting two fundamentally important tasks at the same time. What kind of life you are going to have in terms of a partner and a family and what kind of career you are going to have. And you have to solve those big ones often at exactly the same time, and it is very tricky, very much an evolutionary process. In my case, I have been able to have two children and a husband of 28 years, and he has been committed to the both of us having careers from the outset, which has been my great fortune. I would wish that for you and urge you to make that a criterion in the decision you ultimately make. There are, however, sacrifices that have to be made along the way. You may end up where you do not want to be for a while, or you compromise on a setting because it will maximize both your outcomes. Ultimately, those are the hard choices you have to make.
你如何平衡职业和个人生活?

薛莉 泰勒
相当不容易!这是个困难的问题。当你进入研究所以后,或临近大学毕业的时候,你要同时安排好两件基本的任务。作为伴侣和家庭你想要怎样的生活,以及你想要怎样的职业生涯。以我本人来说,我有两个孩子和一个共同生活了28年的丈夫,他从一开始就主张我们两个都应当有自己的职业生涯,这对我来说是非常幸运的。我但愿你也能有这样的幸运,并极力主张你做出最终决定的时候将这点作为衡量的一个标准。不过,一路走来,总还是有一些牺牲是必须做出的。有的时候,你也许会处在自己不想要的境地,或者,也许为了你们两个人共同的利益最大化,你必须做出让步。基本上,那些都是你必须做出的艰难抉择。
原帖由 sos862004 于 2008-7-30 15:45 发表
I would urge you, however, to be creative in the solutions that you develop. Do not immediately assume that the job is an immovable force and that you have to wedge the rest of your life around it. Be creative in the solutions that you develop in your job. Solutions are developing nationally, as well as individually, so that people have more options. Push, try to find the openings that you need. When I found out that I was pregnant, it turned out that there were two other people in my department who were pregnant at the same time. So there were two women faculty members both about to give birth. The third person was the chairman’s secretary. That turned out to be very important because the chairman did not want to lose his secretary. So he created a little day‐care center in our department, and all three of the babies went into that day‐care center. Now we were very fortunate in benefiting from that, but it is an example of the kind of situation that can evolve when the need is there. A lot of this is such that you pull it together, and you play each situation as it arises. I do not think there are any foolproof rules.
还有,我建议你在解决问题的时候要有创造性。不要简单地将工作设定为不可改变的中心,使你生活中的一切都必须围着它转。在工作上你可以找到创意的解决方案。解决办法可以是符合大众惯例的,也可以是符合你独特情况的,人们有多种多样的选择。尽量,努力去找到你所需要的出路。当我发现自己怀孕的时候,正好我们部门有另外两个人也同时怀孕了。所以,有两个女员工快要生孩子,而第三个则是主席的秘书。这就变得很严重,因为主席不想失去她的秘书。于是,他在我们部门设立了一个日托中心,三个婴儿都进入了那个日托中心。在这件事情中我们都是非常幸运的,但这只是当需要产生时可能会出现的一种情况举例罢了。许多事情是这样的,你将各种情况条件综合起来,随机应变。我不认为会有一个“放之四海而皆准”的规则。
原帖由 sos862004 于 2008-7-30 15:45 发表
Martin Seligman.
Well I am not a fount of wisdom about this, but there are two things I think about. First, one of Erik Erickson’s many mistakes was to argue that in the sequence of development, love and family came before career and achievement. I think in our world for many people, career and achievement come before love and family. The path for me has been sequential for this.

马丁 斯里格曼
这方面我可不算行家,不过我想到了两件事情。第一件,Erik Erickson的许多错误之一,就是争辩说在发展排名中,爱和家庭排在职业生涯和成就之前。我在身边许多人的身上看到,职业生涯和成就排在爱和家庭之前。我个人的经历也是按这个顺序排列的。
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原帖由 sos862004 于 2008-7-30 15:45 发表
There is indeed a threefold secret to success such that I think almost any of you 20 years from now could be up on this platform. I am only going to mention one of the three secrets now. That secret is, given sufficient intelligence in the broad sense, working 80 hours a week for 20 years is a formula for becoming world class at almost anything. That is kind of a dismal prospect but is indeed what I did—and my first marriage was a failure. After the sequence of the first 20 years of working for 80 hours a week, I think I was ready to be a father and a husband again. So for the last 10 years of my life, I have three more children and a different marriage. In fact, one of my wife’s conditions for running for APA president (which involves a great deal of travel) was to buy one of those big GMC trucks, so everywhere we go the whole family goes and is part of it.
只要掌握了三个成功秘诀,我认为,几乎是你们中的任何人,都可以在20年内达到这个层次。在这里我只想说说其中的一个秘诀。这个秘诀就是,投入大量的从广义上来说的才智。每星期工作80个小时,坚持20年,不管你从事什么工作,几乎都可以成为世界级的专家。这可以算是一种不那么高明做法,不过我真的就是这么做的——而且我的第一个婚姻也失败了。每周工作80小时的生活过了20年以后,我觉得我已经准备好再次成为父亲和丈夫了。所以,过去的10年中,我重新结婚,并又有了三个孩子。事实上,我妻子正竞选APA会长一职(需要经常出差)的条件之一,就是要买一辆通用卡车,不管我们到哪里,整个家庭都要跟着到哪里,这就是我们的生活状况。
原帖由 sos862004 于 2008-7-30 15:45 发表
Robert Sternberg.
Some years ago, I realized that it is really important to me to make an impact on the field, so that the kind of work I do after I pop off will continue to matter to the field. And then I looked around and said, how many dead psychologists are being cited today? I realized it is not that many. I mean, Clark Hull was a
big shot at Yale, and now most people only know that he had something to do with mathematical learning theory, if that. I realized that the one thing that is sure is that I have kids, and they are going to have kids, and that is going to continue—the work probably will not. I think that speaks for itself.
罗伯特 斯顿伯格
几年前,我认识到,在工作领域中有所成就对我来说很重要,这样,当我离去以后,我所从事的工作才能够依然在此领域中得到重视。然后我环顾四周,并对自己说,有多少死去的[url=http://bbs.psysoper.com/forum-71-1.html]心理学家[/url]如今还会有人提起?我知道没有多少。我是说,Clark Hull在耶鲁来说曾经是个大人物,而如今,如果有人知道他,大部分人也不过只是知道他与数学学习法理论有某种关系。我可以肯定的是, 我有孩子,他们也将会有自己的孩子,这将会继续下去——而工作恐怕不会。我想这本身就已经说明了事情的本质。

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